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for the media in a rather unusual tellvised speech by the nra chief executive wayne lapierre. >> the media demonized gun owners. >> what role should the media play in this emotional debate? >>> a new movie about the hunt for osama bin laden revives a passionate debate about torture. >> no birth certificate, no cell phone. you guys are ghosts. >> he's right in the inner circle. >> the whole world is going to want in on this. >> is "zero dark 30" or did the filmmakers get a bit too cozy with the obama administration? i'm howard kurtz and this is "reliable sources." >>> it was billed as a press conference, but it was anything but. wayne lapierre took no argument. he called for armed guards in school and ripped the media for reporting misinformation and failing to nail the real culprits. >> in a race to the bottom, media conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate and offend every standard of civilized society. by bringing in an even more toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty right into our homes. >> so, is there any validity to these bombastic charges against the pr
lobby the nra speaking out today one week after violence rocked that small community in connecticut. >>> and devastating implosion, the end of the world? nope, it is not the apocalypse, it's what people are saying about the fiscal cliff. after speaker boehner's plan b falls flat, what's next? "newsroom" starts now. good morning to you. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. this hour a nation pauses to honor the victims of last week's horrifying attack at a connecticut elementary school. many americans including president obama will take part in a moment of violence at 9:30 eastern. that marks the moment one week ago that the gunman burst into sandy hook elementary school. church bells will toll across the country 26 times to remember each of the children and educators killed, and after being noticeably quiet for the past week, the national rifle association holds a news conference next hour. the gun rights groups will comments on the shooting as it faces impassioned calls for tighter gun control. poppy harlow, jason carroll are in newtown on this somber morning. p
. and that is where the vast majority of the money from the nra comes from, is from the gun industry. and a very, very few individuals who are obsessed with guns. it is not the vast majority, the 4 million members. many people join the nra because they have to in order to use the shooting range. >> yeah, they're showing that the dues now from supporting the nra amounts to less than half of their revenue at this stage. >> yes, a lot of this money is coming from the gun industry. and as i say, a few die-hard adherents, people who do not want to compromise at all. >> richard painter, gets the last word. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. >>> good evening, i'm in for chris matthews. leading off tonight, fiscal cliff hanger. president obama calls on congress to act after christmas on a scaled down deal that would spare the middle class from tax hikes on the first of the year. >> we've heard plenty of people calling for new gun control laws, but very little from the national rifle association until now. in a bizarre news conference that was interrupted twice by protesters, the head of the nra
, the nra, making it clear today its opposition to any new gun laws in the wake of the connecticut shooting. on nbc's "meet the press" the group's ceo stood by remarks he made at an event on friday in which he argued for armed guards in school. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. it's the one thing that would keep people safe, and the nra is going to try to do that. >> but democratic senator charles schumer wasn't buying the single solution approach. >> we have to look at a holistic solution. we cannot just make the new normal one of these mass shootings every month, and that seems to be what's happening. so we should try all kinds of different things. >> it was a debate at the center of all the sunday morning talk shows with both sides making their case. cnn's barbara stahr following the story from washington. hello to you. what's the case that the nra is making right now? >> well, look, you know, wane la pi
. but you also had what was news was new voices being heard. voices who are known as being totally nra supporters and total second amendment supporters and pro gun senators. starting with senator joe manchin from west virginia. conservative democrat. probably got 100% rating from the nra. told cnbc yesterday nobody needs these assault weapons. >> i've been hunting with anyone with an assault weapon. i've never been hunting with anyone with multiple clips with 10 20, 30 rounds in it. in deer hunting, we have three shells in our gun and that's the sport of what we do. and i just think that when you have chuck schumer my friend chuck schumer basically saying we should look at the larger clips, those are something we should be talking about. >> bill: absolutely. should be talking about it. senator mark warner from virginia also got elected because he was a strong supporter of gun rights in the commonwealth of virginia. said yesterday enough is enough. now's the time. >> i had an nra rating of an a. but you know, enough is enou
're going to begin the first 45 minutes of the program to talk about the nra's response to the shootings. they broke their silence yesterday with executive director and vice president wayne. we'll talk more about what he had to say. but we want to get you involved in the conversation. so the numbers on your screen. guest: we also have a special line this morning for members of the n.r.a. (202)585-3883 this is for n.r.a. members. you can also reach out to us at twitter.com/cspanwj and f.s.a. -- and facebook at and the headline face of the n.r.a. mountains a forceful defense advocate of armed school guards excels at lighting fires under supporters and critics alike. guest: we'll get back to more of the newspaper articles this morning regarding the n.r.a.'s response to the newtown shootings. first up leslie from wash burn, maine. leslie, go ahead. caller: yes. i'm originally from northern maine and moved here from northern new york and i personally had a second-grade and third-grade teacher killed from mentally unstable students. one used a knife and one beat a teacher. i personally believe
happened a week ago today. the nra is due to make its first official statement in about half an hour. we'll have that for you live. a moment of silence for the 26 victims was held at 9:30 this morning all across the country. >>> that is the newtown united methodist church where bells tolled 26 times. fire fighters were overcome with emotion during the moment of silence at the newtown fire house and many had responded to the scene at the school a week ago. a large group gathered in prayer at the national cathedral in washington, d.c. the nasdaq put up a sign that said moment for sandy hook on their digital display outside the building. [ female announcer ] food, meet flavor. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. hell-o! excuse me, sir i'm gonna have to ask you to power down your little word game. i think your friends will understand. oh no, it's actually my geico app...see? ...i just uh paid my bill. did you really?
out before they take down the country? >>> also, the nra comes face-to-face with reality. the american people say guns are part of the problem. not part of the solution. >> nra has blood on its hands. the nra has blood on its hands. shame on the nra. ban assault weapons now. >> you won't believe what the nra wants to do to our schools. you're watching "politics nation" on msnbc. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> today's biggest reaction came from the protest that broke out at the nra press conference. fred says interesting that the nra is talking about security while being unable to secure its own press conference. jodi asked will the nra never admit that assault weapons are not necessary and kill countless people? our fans also love this photo of the president observing a moment of silence for sandy hook this morning. derold said i prayed that we can learn how to re
show. >>> from the fiscal cliff to gun control nra executive vice president was on "meet the press" this morning and here is part of what he said. >> i don't understand why you can't just for a minute imagine that when that horrible monster tried to shoot his way into sandy hook school that if a good guy with a gun would have been there he might have been able to stop it. >> nbc news editor is with me in the studio. there were armed guards at columbine. >> we know the nra is going to dig in. nothing is going to change until the other side can show that it can win these kinds of arguments. we saw this with environmental regulations in the 70s. you saw this in the 90s with the assault weapons ban. i think a lot of democrats got spooked after the mid 90s because so many of them lost their seats. the nra has the power where they can say to their members go to that person's town hall, make sure that they are hit with the questions that we want them hit with. until there is a movement the other direction you are not going to see very much change. >> do you think that the nra has as much
press conferences in recent memory. with nra's chief wayne lapierre giving what felt less than a news conference and more than a 30 minute case for ending gun violence with more guns. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now. to make sure that blanket safety is in place when our kids return to school in january. >> oh, boy. this news conference monolog was interrupted not once but twice by protesters who wrote this on sheets. >> nra scope killing our children. it's the nra and the assault weapons that are killing our children. not armed teachers. we got to end the violence. we got to stop the killing. >> so the ceo of the nation's largest gun lobby echoed the old refrain guns don't kill people, people kill people. seven days after newtown, lapierre called for armed police in every school and a national mental health registry. that's right. register people who have mental health problems
the south, from kentucky, has always been critical of the nra, long before he became a member of congress. he is he has an f rating from the nra. as he told us yesterday and more and more people recognize this. one of the reasons you see so many republicans and democrats, they may not be willing to stand up to grover norquist but they are willing to stand up to the nra and the reason they are is because they recognize two things about the nra now, which hadn't really come to light before. number 1 is, it's no longer what we used to thing of it as just a nice grass roots organization where people who like to go hunting with their kids, you know, maybe collect some guns. just law-abiding gun owners johnny six-shooter representing them. no. no. the nra is a big gun manufacturer's lobby. they have become really the front for the gun manufacturers of the country, those who are manufacturing the guns that are killing our kids. there is a recent study out that showed since 2005, the nra got $53 million from its corporate partners 74% of those corporate partners either
control act that was then, even in the leadership of the nra at the time, and charles heston subscribed to a statement applied to by another hollywood tough guy calling for some regulation to prevent this repetition of the crimes and horrible assassinations, but i think it's like with a lot of gun control measures. you support them in california, ronald reagan supported a gun control measure because black panthers ran around with guns in the state legislature in sacramento. >> host: openly carrying the guns and in the pictures and everything. >> guest: passed a law making it harder, almost impossible to do that, imposing a waiting period between applying for a handgun and actually being able to buy it, and people say, oh, well that law will certainly stop the black panthers, but that law doesn't apply to just black panthers, but everybody. eventually, you get a black lash, and, well, you know, there's a social and political backlash in general to a lot of the things that happen, and i think gun control is one of them. >> host: the 68 act, i mean, that dealt mainly with the list of prohi
luther king. and there was support in the leadership in the nra for gun control. and charlton heston even subdescribed to statement read by another hollywood tough guy, calling for some kind of regulation that prevents the repetition of these crimes, these assassinations. i think it's like with a lot of gun control measures, you support them in california, ronald reagan supported a gun control measure, and because black panthers were running around with guns in the state legislator in sacramento. >> host: carrying guns. >> guest: exactly. the law made it impossible to do that and imposed a waiting period on the time you needed between applying for a handgun and actually being able to buy it. and people say, oh, well, that law will certainly stop the black panthers. but that law doesn't apply just to black panthers. eventually you get a backlash, and there was a social and political backlash in general to a lot of the things that happened in the '60s, and i think gun control was one of them. so, -- >> host: the '68 act dealt with the list of prohibited purchasers. so it wasn't saying if yo
on guns will kick off a new fight in washington. the nra spent $18.6 million supporting and opposing candidates during the 2012 cycle. according to the sun life found case, 51% of the numbers of the new congress have received funding from the national rifle association's political action committee at some point in their political careers. the nra is known for staying silent, running out the clock after tragedies like the one in newtown but yesterday there was a sign that they may be feeling more political pressure than ever before and from the changing tone around the country. group released a statement saying, "they are shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the newtown tragedy." out of respect for the families and as a matter of common decency we have given time for morning prayer and a full consideration of the facts before commenting. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to make sure this never happens again. the nra also announced a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday. they didn't say where. while the nra spent several days mostly quiet, n
, and in 1868 gun control act. their support for that even in the leadership of the nra at the time. charlton heston even subscribe to a statement was read another hollywood tough guy, calling for some kind of regulation to prevent the repetition of these crimes as horrible as these assassinations. but i think with a lot of gun control measures, you support them in california. ronald reagan supported a gun-control measure because panthers are running around with guns in the state legislature sacramento. that's a lot that made it impossible to do that and imposed a waiting period on the time you needed between applying for a hand guns and actually being able to buy it. people say that lott will certainly stop the black panthers, but that law doesn't apply just to black panthers. eventually they backlash. well you know the social and political backlash to a lot of the things that happened and i think gun control is one of them. >> host: the 68 act dealt mainly with prohibited purchasers. so it was insane if you are a felon or habitual drug user or dishonorably discharged, mentally dangerous, th
that is the debate that is going to rage, especially after that nra presser today in washington. but for this town, for this moment, for this day, it is not about that. it is very important, but it is about the people and the victims and remembering them and commemorating them in beautiful ways just like this one, brooke. >> absolutely, poppy harlow, thank you so much for us in newtown. wasn't thrill a presser the nra gave, a statement, no questions answered afterward. the nra also held a moment of silence at 9:30 this morning today for the 20 children and the 6 adults slaughtered last friday in newtown schoolhouse. but hours later, the nra spelled out its own plan to prevent similar massacres in the future. the message from wayne lapierre, put guns in every school now. >> and does anybody really believe that the next adam lanza isn't planning his attack on a school, he's already identified at this very moment? how many more copycats are waiting in the wings for their moment of fame? the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. i call on congress today to act immediatel
conference where the nra breaks it's silence by suggesting there should be more guns on campus, not fewer. >> nra says there should be an armed police officer at every school. >> abc 7 news mark matthews is here, got quite a reaction today it did. and a few expected the nra to come out in favor of gun control but executive vice president never brought it up. national rifle association sent a sharp mess yachblgt no retreat. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> nra meter said what is needed is an armed police officer in every single school. and he accused washington of rank hypocrisy for protecting the president but failing to do the same for school children. >> we as a society leave them every day utterly defenseless. >> nravp unloaded on the news media and condemned producers of violent video games and the police chief points out there is no mention of gun autos to suggest that guns shouldn't be part of the conversation? i think that is ridiculous. >> the chief calls it crazy to allow the clips and weapons of war on our city streets. >> i have gun
of the nra. it's the same line we've heard before from the nra, but has the country's relationship with guns fundamentally changed since newtown? and what we saw last night from house republicans is yet another symptom of the real problem for the gop. they don't believe in compromise. and they've lurched too far to the right. we begin with where things stand on the fiscal cliff, msnbc political analyst and msnbc contributor jared bernstein. jentle men, president obama tonight said he had spoken with speaker boehner in addition to senate majority leader harry reed. >> i just spoke to speaker boehner and i also met with senator reed. in the next few days, i've asked leaders of congress to work towards a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans, protects unemployment insurance for two million americans and lays the groundwork for further work on both growth and deficit reduction. >> jared, is this actually a setback for the president in so far as the embarrassed speaker with someone at least with whom he was dealing? and now, the president really doesn't have a negotiation par
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a conservative republican who received the nra's highest ratings over four terms in congress. i saw this debate over guns as a powerful symbolic struggle between individual rights and government control. and you know what? in the years after waco and ruby ridge, the symbolism of that debate seemed even more powerful to me. but the symbols of that ideological struggle, they've been shattered by the harvest's own from violent, mind-numbing video games and gruesome hollywood movies that dangerously desensitize those who struggle with mental health challenges. and then add in military-styled weapons and high-capacity magazines to that equation, and tragedy can never be too far behind. you know, there's no easy ideological way forward. if it were only that simple as to blame hollywood or the nra or insufficient funding for mental health, then our task would be completed in no time. but i come to you this morning with a heavy heart and no easy answers. still, i've spent the past few days grasping for solutions and struggling for answers. while daring to question my own long-held belief on these subje
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balance that kind of conversation? the sort of nra crowd is saying this is just domestic violence, guns are unrelated. there are statistics out there saying guns make it more likely that it's going to turn deadly. how should that conversation sort of be balanced, do you think? >> i think you are absolutely right. when these things happen, it's too late. what i think is interesting is that the nras hold on the political conversation is actually breaking a little bit. the nra spent a lot of money in the last cycle. they went up against a lot of candidates, lost across the board. i'm hoping their control of the political conversation, i commend mayor bloomburg. he's investing a lot of money and trying to balance out the nra. he's had a lot of victory. it's an important effort. politics have become constrained and the ability to talk about it is constrained. there's a plug at the nra wheels. the less people fear that, politicians, political leaders, the more we engage in a conversation. maybe gun control wasn't the issue per se. background check or other issues. a broader conversation, does
's the one thing that would keep people safe. the nra would try to do that. there monsters out there every day and we need to do something to stop it. a gun is a tool. the problem is the criminal. >> that's the best, i guess, of nr a's ceo. after the press conference friday, he had another strike out on "meet the press." a house democrat is backing a package that pushes background checks on gun buyers and those on the terrorist watch list. from buying and owning guns. yeah. right now that is actually legal. in addition, the bill would require gun owners to report lost or stolen weapons and make it harder to carry permits. do you notice what's missing from the list? armed guards at the school. with matt miller, we will talk about all of this. matt, republican pollster was on cbs talking about wayne la pierre and i want to listen to the comments and get your take. >> i don't think the nra is listening. i don't think that they understand. most americans would protect the second amendment rights and yet agree with the idea that not every human being should own a gun. not every gun should be av
say the nra uses money, power, scare tactics to hold lawmakers hostage to the agenda opposing gun regulations. i want to bring in richard painter and the law professor of minnesota and joining us from minneapolis who wrote an opinion piece, an op ed in "the new york times," and a protection racket where people are controlled by organized criminals, corrupt politicians. when you hear the head of the nra today say that gun laws are not the answer it really is arming people, arming somebody in that school that could have saved lives, what is your response? >> well, we -- of course, should focus on mental health issues. we should have fewer violent movies and video games and have better security in our schools, but nothing is going to change the fact that the last thing those children saw if they looked up, and i hope they didn't, is the end of a weapon manufactured by his financial backers. lapierre says if one of those teachers had a weapon they could have killed the gunman and could have saved lives and that was the potential outcome had there been someone armed in that school. >>
opposition of the new gun flaws the aftermath of the newtown massacre. the nra ceo went on tv today. those that oppose the nra respearen't backing down either. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> newtown. >> how many more? >> reporter: performers and artists now joining with 800 mayors calling for a plan to end gun violence. but wayne lapierre, the chief executive officer and public face of the national rifle association, made clear on nbc's "meet the press" that his organization will oppose legislation adding new restrictions to the sale of weapons or high-capacity ammunition magazines. >> look, i know there's a media machine in this country that wants to blame guns every time something happens. i know there's an anti-second amendment industry in this town. i know there's political leads that for 20 years always try to say it is because americans own guns. i'm telling you what i think will make people safe. and what every mom and dad will make them better, if when they drop their kid off at school in january is if we have a police officer in that school, a good guy. >> reporter: as the
by the nra. as i said yesterday, do you think the nra has power? just remember the number one priority was to defeat barack obama. last time i checked he will be inaugurated again. >> mayor bloomberg will be live on "morning joe" later this morning. two leading democrats who have earned high praise from the national rifle association are now rethinking their stance on guns. last night senator mark warner of virginia became the latest to call for action. >> i've been a long-time supporter of second amendment rights. you know, i believe every american has second amendment rights, and the ability to hunt and it's part of our culture. i had an nra rating of an "a." but, you know, enough is enough. my -- i've got -- i'm the father of three daughters. this weekend they all said, dad, how can this go on? and i, like i think most of us, realize that there are ways to get to rationale gun control. there won't be one perfect law that will stop a crazy person from doing evil things. but when we have close to 30,000, you know, killings a year from all types of gun violence, even if we save a few l
first baptist church in pensacola, florida, that are lifetime members of the nra, who went out hunting across northwest florida and alabama and georgia and mississippi, from the time they were 9, 10. jon meacham, you were raised in a similar culture. although you were wearing white gloves during your formative years. i'm sorry. i was struck that the most passionate people that said what you always want to hear, thank you for saying what i wanted to say. thank you for putting into words. they were -- they were, my friends from first baptist church, they were hunters, they were people that said, i'm not going to have somebody -- i'm not going to have extremists take my right to keep and bear a arms, protect my family, and go hunting with my kids. >> i think that's the key word. gun owners who think this through realize that the second amendment culture has bone totally captured by extremists since before really, but i think the marker is when, in 1994, i think, the phrase, jack booted thugs, remember, was used about the atf and people like george h.w. bush and norman schwartzcof resigned
is in its final week. are you ready? ho, ho, ho. >> all right. we want to go straight to the nra news conference which has just started. let's listen in. >> -- to avoid such events in the future. like most americans, we were shocked by what happened. like all americans, we've been discussing all of the various options that are available to protect our children and at this point we would like to share our thinking with you. for that purpose, i'd like to introduce wayne laperriere, our executive vice president. thank you again for being with us and at the end of this conference we will not be taking questions, but next week we will be available to any of you who are interested in talking about these or other issues of interest to you, so contact us, please, at that point. thank you very much. wayne? >> good morning. the national rifle association, 4 million mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters joined the nation in horror, outrage, grief, and ernest prayer for the families of newtown, connecticut. who have suffered such an incomprehensible loss as a result of this unspeakable crime. out
on that banner says, nra killing our kids. this is the first news conference the nra held since the mass shooting that we first told you about last friday. wayne laperriere, ceo of nra. he will amid this first statement when the disruption took place. one of the big questions, moving forward into the new year, what will the task force created by president obama come up with, when it comes to the future potentially of gun control in this country. and how will the nra respond? according to some initial reports it seemed that the nra said they were going to come out with their own proposal and hopefully work in the process. let's go ahead and listen to wayne laperriere. >> by an unknown number of genuine monsters. people that are so deranged, so evil, so possessed by voices and driven by demons, that no sane person can ever possibly comprehend them. they walk among us every single day. and does anybody really belief that the next adam lanza isn't planning his attack on a school? he is already identified at this very moment? how many more copycats are waiting in the wings for their moment of fame? fr
slamming the nra calling the group's leader a gun nut and politicians divided along party lines with the thought of more guns in schools. >> i do not believe that those remarks represent anywhere near a significant portion of america. >> school safety is a complex issue with no simple no single solution but i believe trained, armed security is one key component among many that can provide the first line of difference as well as the last line of defense. >> reporter: the debate over semi-automatic weapons and high capacity magazines has raged since the shooting at sandy hook. a gallup poll found 53% agreed increasing police presence in schools would be very effective. a third said somewhat effective, 12% said not effective and 42% said banning the sale of automatic weapons and nor an third, 36% said it would not be effective. feel free to weigh in on my page at rick levanthol over the debate of gun rights and greater restrictions continues. >> heather: rick, thank you. >> gregg: search for justice in the benghazi, libya terror attacks. a scathing report placing blame squarely for
violence and the american hunters and shooters association, an alternative to nra for moderate gun owners. thank you for joining us. >> thank you eliot. >> eliot: the frustration we've felt for years in response to gun violence. in the context of all that has happened, the lack of action, what is your agenda, and how do you plan to make it real. >> it's no different than it has been the better part of 20 years. i'm a gun owner. i'm a business person. i believe in the second amendment and the right to bear arms but the founders never extended that the second amendment extend to terrorists and criminals to buy guns without even a background check. toy guns and teddy bears have a multitude of regulations of how they're made and marketed. you need an i.d. to vote in many places. but in 33 states it's federal gun policy that you do not need an i.d. or background check to buy an unrestricted, unlimited number of guns. that is federal gun policy. it's left to the states and states do what they want. the only place where there is a background check requirement in assault weapons and handguns is i
, the 1968 gun control act. there was support for that even in the leadership of the nra at the time, and charlton heston even subscribed to a statement was read by another hollywood tough-guy calling for some kind of regulation to prevent this repetition of these crimes as horrible as the assassinations, but a lot of gun control measures to support them in california, ronald reagan supported the gun control measure because the black panthers were run around with guns and state legislature in sacramento. >> guest: they pass a law that made it hard or impossible to do that and the rating period on the time he needed to reapply for a handgun and actually being able to buy at and people said well, that will certainly stop the black panthers that doesn't apply just to the black panthers. it applies to everybody. will eventually you get a backlash, and there was the social and political backlash to a lot of the things that happened and i think gun-control was one of them. >> host: but the act dealt mainly with a list of prohibitive purchases. so, it wasn't saying if you are if felon or ha
school tragedy by suggesting there should be more guns on campus not less. nra says there should be an armed officer, police officer at every school. comments generated as you can imagine quite a reaction today. here's political reporter mark matthe matthews. >>reporter: national rifle association sent a sharp message through its leader wayne la pierre. no retreat. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >>reporter: leader said what is needed is armed police officer in every single school. and he accused washington of rank hypocracy protecting the president and congress with armed security but failing to do the same for school childre children. >> we as society leave them every day utterly defenseless. >>reporter: nrav p unloaded on the news media for the way it reports on mass murderer. he condemned producers of violent video games. san francisco police chief greg sur points out no mention of guns. >> to suggest that guns shouldn't be part of the conversation? i just think it's ridiculous. guns have to be part of the conversation. >>re
. the nra is going to try to do that. >> if they can train other police in other countries like iraq it should find money in the budget to help put police in every american school. which is why he said the ? ra will -- the nra will add -- advocate for that. he put hutchinson at the top of the nra effort to protect schools this way. and hutchinson said this morning, protecting schools with guns is similar to protecting planes with guns in the hands of air marshals after 9/11. but not all lawmakers are sold on the idea and kent conrad says it sounds costly. >> we already have armed officers in many schools in washington, d.c. we have armed officers in schools. and some of that is appropriate and perhaps we can do more. it actually doesn't cost $8 billion. we have 130,000 elementary and secondary schools in the country. if you have two officers in each it would cost $25 billion. where is that money going to come from? >> critics of the nra plan to guard every school with guns think the better solution would be to ban assault rifles or high capacity magazines. but wayne la pierre doesn't
thanks for being with us. i want to start with this. your reaction to the nra and you heard of lapierre's statement to the nra. what's your thought on the plan put out there to put guns in schools. >> first, richard, thank you for having me. my reaction to the statement yesterday is that i'm disappointed, but not surprised, candidly, and i think we have to stay very focused here and not be put off by the kind of distraction that was put forth yesterday. we certainly need to have concrete plans to make sure our schools are safe, but the notion of adding more guns as a solution is wrong minded and we shouldn't be distracted by the comments yesterday. this is what i believe they were. >> how practical is the idea put forth? the department of labor saying that the average salary for a police officer is about $55,000. there's about 100,000 public schools across the country and it would mean $5 billion if the plan were to be carried out. >> i don't think there's anything more precious than our kids so we do need to make sure that we change and have plans to address school safety, but i don't
today. >> thank you, sir. >> nra leaders remain staunchly opposed to tougher gun laws. that's two weeks after the newtown massacre. but one lawmakers thinks that the nra members actually favor new laws. >>> and ex-cia military director and top military man david petraeus now on top of the list of this year's worst scandals. >>> as americans grapple with how to curb gun violence after the newtown massacre, nra leaders remain opposed to tougher laws. but one lawmaker thinks that the stance of the nra leadership is out of step with its members. joining me now is virginia congressman jim moran. briefly, let me ask you first about the fiscal cliff because i have you here. you and your members will get back to work tomorrow. i'm wondering is there going to be a last ditch effort to avoid this and what do you think is going to happen? >> i think the likelihood is that we go over the cliff, martin. and, of course, that's my primary focus because my congressional district would be the hardest hit if beat go over the fiscal cliff. i've got tens of thousands of federal employees and a great deal o
of the nra said call me crazy. but doubling down on armed security guards in all schools. is that a good idea? we report and you decide. a special christmas message and have we forgotten the reason for the season? ♪ ♪ lso find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. i just served my mother-in-law your chicken noodle soup but she loved it so much... i told her it was homemade. everyone tells a little white lie now and then. but now she wants my recipe [ clears his throat ] [ softly ] she's right behind me isn't she? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >> rick: quick headliners. former president bush may not be home for christmas. the 41st president still needs to buildp his strength. he was hospitalized since november 23rd for a cough . final
and the big majority of nra members in favor of at least starter reforms to our gun laws, the biggest barrier to reforming our laws now may just be the pervasive common wisdom that it's not even worth it to try. modern history defies that common wisdom. but it persists. it persists, maybe. now, the last time we talked on the show about the long, long and long lost modern history and bipart san gun reforms was in the wake of the tucson shooting this past weekend. and in the wake of that shooting, the tucson shooting, this was the general assessment. gun control dead. a nonstarter. shootings unlikely to change laws. don't expect any changes. that was our random survey of the headlines last january after the tucson shootings. at least if you asked the beltway shooting gods. now it seems like the common wisdom may be less certain. look at the headlines now. and it's more like this. debate on gun control is revived. lawmakers call for tougher gun laws in wake of new town massacre. gun control debate simmers after sandy hook massacre. nobody is saying it's going to be easy for our country to reform
the president of the nra will be on with david gregory on "meet the press" so a big weekend to see what the nra plan to do going forward. >> exactly. i'll be on the program, as well. thank you for the plug and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. >> hi, andrea. plan "b" basically stands for be real. and house republicans get ready to bring boehner plan to the floor for a vote. senator reid says it's got no chance of passing the senate. what's the possible solution? >>> democratic congressman pass quell and congresswoman swartz will join us. tomorrow, the nra holds that big news conference we have been waiting for. will the organization announce support of gun control legislation? that's the gut check question of the day. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiro
... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> in the wake of the connecticut school tragedy, the nra is calling for armed guards at every school. it's a policy the mayor of new jersey put in place and his defended his decision earlier today with thomas roberts. >> i think we have to close the loopholes on gun control. ta being said, our students need to be safe where they learned. what newtown showed us is existing security is not safe. the only way to protect our students right now is to have a police officer present in the school. >> but not everyone is on board with the nra's plan to make schools safer. joining me now is randy winegarten, the head of the american federation of teachers. thank you so much for joining us. >> it's my pleasure. >> we did d some research and the national school safety center says about 25% of schools with armed guards, when i go to a college football game, i often see numerous officers have weapons. in case of issues. why should that same protection that's at a college football game not be afforded to every single child that goes to public school in america? >> s
big following in florida with the nra i can see that. looking at their website you know, and everyone looks at florida as far as concealed weapon permits i think it has tripled over the last few years. i know the nra has over four million members. people want to bear arms. i upt stand that. people want to have concealed weapons now. when i say it is a problem not just the state of florida. i see that as a problem states are operating as individual countries. when you go to europe, you know, the size is around the same but you see each state size is a country in europe. we are operating like a country. each state if colorado wants marijuana then they goat et it. if florida wants to have guns. was i was growing up i noticed that the federal government stepped in more. the lawmakers were accountable. if you went too mar in yofar in state the federal government slapped you back a little bit. when president obama came into arizona he got a stern talking to. and he's a chief of the country and he has a finger in his face. we have to have the respect for our leaders. the best that we can do
with me. >> on friday. the president of the nra said this. >> next week. we will be interested in talking about these. and contact us please at that point. we will be willing to talk to anyone on monday. he has been busy running around and spent some time today with cnn. joining me now, we are not afraid to discuss this with anything. the buyback has been something to be hold. and it has been really sat tur ration and the guns have been pouring in. it is a feeling that is different about it this time. this is happening in big cities in la. >> we are already sensitive to it and not in some of the more rural parts of the country. what i think is important is the sensation that is occurring throughout the country. it doesn't mean that it is prevent i preventing getting one of those guns. it is clearly happening out there. and karen the drudge report going crazy. jared loughner used ed handgun you couldn't write legislation that did not try to take that gun out of jared loughner's hand. we had a weapon that was used. i think he modified his ar 15 to be able to shoot more people faster but yea
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